上海交大赵大海关于新冠疫情第4次在电视台访谈评论：应提供充足医疗防护物资和保护好2万名援鄂医务人员

上海交通大学国际与公共事务学院博士生导师、上海交通大学-耶鲁大学卫生政策联合研究中心执行主任赵大海近日第四次接受中央电视台英语频道（CGTN）的直播采访。在2020年2月14日晚8点的《中国24小时》节目，赵大海就湖北省新冠肺炎疫情的近况和全国医务人员面对疫情的防护等进行了评论，相应中文全文翻译如下。

主持人：为了分析上述问题，我们邀请了上海交通大学-耶鲁大学卫生政策联合中心执行主任赵大海对其进行解读。从本星期四开始湖北的新病例比星期三要少得多。为什么？

赵大海：自本周三开始，临床诊断标准已被确定为新冠肺炎病例的标准之一。因此，对于那些原本临床诊断可确诊但核酸检测阴性的疑似病例，在周三就均被确诊为了病例。在本周三的全部病例中，有大量病例不是当天的新发病例，而是来自于之前应被确诊而只是计算在了周三。因而，周三的病例数不能完全看作是当天的新发病例数。自本周四之后，每日确诊病例数将更加准确。此外，本周四新增病例数是周二新增病例数的三倍；对于只通过核酸检测的新增病例而言，本周四的新发病例数比周二和周三都略高一些。因此，湖北省抗击新冠肺炎的任务依然非常严峻。

主持人：一千七百余名医务人员感染了新冠肺炎，有没有更好的预防措施？既然这些医生和护士都成了病人，这会不会影响疫情的控制？

赵大海：这是两个很棒的问题。对于第一个问题，我的回答是肯定的，所有的医务人员都应该得到更好的保护。然而，在新冠肺炎爆发期间，医疗防护物资非常不足。由于医疗防护用品的短缺，很多医务人员在医院工作时没有得到足够的防护服、防护镜甚至口罩。另外，全国特别是湖北的医务人员工作负担确实很重。巨大的心理压力和繁重的工作负担使他们就有了很高的被感染风险。因此，应通过提供充足的医疗防护用品和让他们有足够的时间休息等方式来让全体医务人员得到更好的保护。

对于第二个问题，我的答案是否定的。在一千七百余名被感染的医务人员中，约90%来自湖北，约65%来自武汉。中央政府已经意识到了这个问题。来自全国各地的大约2万名医务人员已到达武汉或湖北其他地区，来帮助这里的医务人员。随着医疗防护等物资供应的改善，我相信全国各地英勇的医务人员将一定能赢得这场新冠肺炎疫情的战斗。

供稿单位：国际与公共事务学院

日期：2020年02月15日

Dahai Zhao' 4th comments on TV during the Pandemic: 20,000 Aid-giving Medical Staffs Should be Better Protected by Offering Full Medical Supplies in Hubei

Dahai Zhao, PhD supervisor of SJTU School of International and Public Affairs and the executive director of SJTU-Yale Joint Center for Health Policy, recently accepted interviews from the CGTN on containing COVID-19 in China for the fourth time. In "China 24" at 8 pm on February 14, Zhao commented on recent situation of containing COVID-19 in Hubei and the protection of medical staff in the country as follows.

Anchor: For some analysis, we're joined by a skype by Professor Zhao Dahai，Executive Director of Shanghai Jiao Tong University-Yale University Joint Center for Health Policy. Welcome to our program professor. Now, Thursday's new cases in Hubei is much lower than that from Wednesday. And people are breathing a sigh of relief, of course, but help us understand the situation here, Why?

ZHAO Dahai: The clinical diagnosis standard has been recognized as one of the standards of confirmed cases since this Wednesday. Therefore, a large number of suspected cases whose clinical diagnosis can be confirmed, while their nucleic acid testing were negative, had been accumulated to be cases on Wednesday. Therefore, a huge number of cases among the total cases on Wednesday are not new cases on this day. So the total number of cases on Wednesday are not very accurate. Furthermore, the number of daily cases will be more accurate since this Thursday. In addition, the total number of new cases on Thursday is three times of new cases on Tuesday; In terms of new cases only through nucleic acid testing from Tuesday to Thursday, the number on Thursday is the highest. Therefore, the challenge of combating coronavirus in Hubei are also very tough. 

Anchor: Yeah, let's also talk about the medics at the front lines. 1700 of them have been affected. Could there have been better prevention? And will this affect epidemic control? Now that these doctors and nurses have become patients themselves?

ZHAO Dahai: Those are really good two questions. For the first question, my answer is yes, all medical staff should have been better protected. However, during the virus outbreak, medial supplies are very insufficient. Many medical staff when they work in the hospital are not fully protected by protective clothing, glasses, even face mask, due to the serious shortage of medial supplies. In addition, medical staff’s work burden in all over the county, especially in Hubei, is really very heavy. Huge psychological pressure and heavy work burden make them be on the high risk of infection. Therefore, all medial staff should be better protected by offering full medical supplies, and make them have time to rest. 

For the second question, I think it will not. Among the 17 hundred infected medical staff, about 90% of them are from Hubei, about 65% of them are from Wuhan. The central government of China has realized this issue, about 20 thousand medial staff from all over the country have been in Hubei and Wuhan and helped the medical staff there. With the improvement of medical supplies, I believe the breve medical staff all over the country will win the battle against coronavirus.

Contributor: SJTU School of International and Public Affairs

Data: February 15, 2020